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#31177 - 07/19/10 03:06 PM Planet Press and HP Indigo
ZCameron Offline
OL Newbie

Registered: 12/12/08
Posts: 8
Loc: Provo, UT
Is anyone using Planet Press to send jobs (ps or pdf output) to an HP Indigo? I've heard from non-Objectif Lune sources that it doesn't work out so well, but I couldn't get specifics as to why that would be. If anyone has any experience with this, I would love to know what to look for/avoid/try as we look into sending jobs to this new device. Or, if it should be avoided entirely, I would love to know what as well.

Thanks for your input!

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#31178 - 07/20/10 02:02 PM Re: Planet Press and HP Indigo
Raphael Lalonde Lefebvre Offline
OL Expert

Registered: 10/14/05
Posts: 4956
Loc: Objectif Lune Montreal
ZCameron,

While I didn't use the HP Indigo myself, our software should work well with any PostScript printers.

If this is a PostScript printer, it should be able to print PlanetPress forms just fine. If it's not a PostScript printer, it might still be possible to print to it using "Print Using Windows Driver", which uses the printer's driver to rip the job as opposed to sending directly to the printer. (although this option requires you to have at least the Office level of our suite, and you will be more limited in terms of paper handling options)

It might be helpful for us to know what exactly what these "non-Objectif Lune sources" were complaining about. We have many solutions for all kind of problems, so please let us know the concerns voiced by these sources, they may be easy problems to fix.

Regards,
Rapha

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#31179 - 07/26/10 12:50 PM Re: Planet Press and HP Indigo
Dave Bell Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 06/09/05
Posts: 4
Loc: Markham ON
We've had Indigos for 10 years, and no, we generally don't use PlanetPress to print to them.

It's not due to a fault with PP. The various HP rips are very slow when processing multipage files, either .ps or .pdf; if you can live with the Indigo processing time, then PP works just fine. .ps files rip a little faster than .pdf. 100 pages will rip in more or less a respectable time, 1000 pages will take a few hours, even if simple text only pages. If your particular HP rip will process VPS, you could try that way. Our current main Indigo rip is not VPS enabled, we have an older off-line rip that is, and VPS works on that, but still dead slow.

Processing time seems worse because Indigos are not rip and run, the press can't start printing until it has a complete file. What you must do is break up your data into chunks and rip in sections. Then the press can be printing one section while more sections rip. However, the press can print far faster than it can rip the next .ps file, and depending on the particular Indigo, you really don't want to overfill the print queue.

We do have some jobs we do on a regular basis (usually <100 records at a time) that run as a PPServer process. We drop the data in a server hot folder, Server loads the PP document, and outputs .ps directly to an Indigo hot folder that has a specific multi-up imposition. Works well.

As to colour, PlanetPress passes through whatever colour and resolution is contained in the placed files of the document, so that's not an issue. For the colour of any PP object like type, you'll have to experiment a bit with CMYK mixes, since PP doesn't have Pantone libraries. You also will have to deal with imposing any multi-up jobs. I would say use the Indigo software for that, it is a clever piece of work, as you will find.

Play around and see if PP sent to the Indigo will do what you need. It probably will, it just won't do it fast enough.

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#31180 - 08/11/10 06:24 AM Re: Planet Press and HP Indigo
Mario Offline
OL User

Registered: 05/06/08
Posts: 58
Loc: Holland
We have an new Indigo 5500 and have te same problems Cameron.
Planetpress and HP Rip does not like each other.
Other postscript files form other program files are much quicker than Planet.
I made a job with planet, 250 pages took me 1.5 hours.
Made the same job in a different program, id did 250 pages in 5 minutes. Both postscript.

Called Hp and Objectiflune, but there is nothing they can do.

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