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#43958 - 06/27/13 07:53 AM Size grows enormisly
.Patrick Offline
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Registered: 02/14/13
Posts: 31
Loc: The Netherlands
Hi all,

We have a nice running planetpress now; however the speed of the printing is very slow. The input file size is 34kb (rtf file) and output is an 960kb pdf. Is there anything to make it smaller again or is it possible to convert it to another data type when send to the printer?

Thx in advance!

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#43969 - 06/28/13 09:07 AM Re: Size grows enormisly [Re: .Patrick]
Raphael Lalonde Lefebvre Offline
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Registered: 10/14/05
Posts: 4956
Loc: Objectif Lune Montreal
Patrick,

How are you outputting to the printer? Are you printing the pdf file, and if so, how do you send it to the printer? Or are you using a Printer Queue Output with a .ptk form, or maybe Print Using a Windows Driver with a .ptk form?

Please provide more details.

Regards,
Raphaël Lalonde Lefebvre

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#43998 - 07/01/13 05:40 AM Re: Size grows enormisly [Re: .Patrick]
.Patrick Offline
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Registered: 02/14/13
Posts: 31
Loc: The Netherlands
I am outputting to an uniflow printer (Canon printer solution).
Send it using a printer queue output with ptk form.


in the ptk form there are arround 12 conditions to consider (Dont know if that is sizable?) Any more information needed?

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#44019 - 07/02/13 02:11 PM Re: Size grows enormisly [Re: .Patrick]
Philippe F. Offline
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Registered: 09/06/00
Posts: 1984
Loc: Objectif Lune, Montreal, Qc
Conditions do not have an impact on size.

How do you convert your RTF to PDF?
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#44034 - 07/03/13 06:12 AM Re: Size grows enormisly [Re: .Patrick]
.Patrick Offline
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Registered: 02/14/13
Posts: 31
Loc: The Netherlands
With the WinQueue Input
Create PDF (With metadata) option enabled.

Optimize PDF format is disabled.

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#44035 - 07/03/13 07:46 AM Re: Size grows enormisly [Re: .Patrick]
Philippe F. Offline
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Registered: 09/06/00
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Loc: Objectif Lune, Montreal, Qc
OK, so to summarize:
- You print (presumably from MS-Word or something similar) to the PlanetPress Printer Driver.
- You capture that spool file with the WinQueue Input to convert it to PDF.
- Then you use that PDF as the Data File to feed to a PlanetPress Template that produces the PS file to send to Uniflow.

Given this, note that we have no control on how the RTF gets printed to the PlanetPress Printer Driver: the application that prints issues commands that the driver converts to PS. So depending on how many, and what type of commands the application issues, the resulting PS file can be very large. The Winqueue input then converts that PS file into a PDF (which is much smaller) but eventually, when it all gets sent again to Uniflow, the PDF gets reconverted back to PS, so we're still dealing with the same kind of PS code that was originally generated by the application/driver.

All in all, this is pretty standard stuff. I don't believe the 940Kb size of the final file is an issue: try loading the PDF received from the WinQueue input into Acrobat and selecting the Save As PS (or Save as EPS) option and you'll likely get a resulting file with the same kind of size (if not larger). PostScript is much more verbose than RTF, especially when converted from PDF.
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#44036 - 07/03/13 07:58 AM Re: Size grows enormisly [Re: .Patrick]
.Patrick Offline
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Registered: 02/14/13
Posts: 31
Loc: The Netherlands
Is tehre any plugin to convert it back to an size that is smaller?

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#44037 - 07/03/13 08:06 AM Re: Size grows enormisly [Re: .Patrick]
Philippe F. Offline
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Registered: 09/06/00
Posts: 1984
Loc: Objectif Lune, Montreal, Qc
There would be no point to it: eventually, you'll need to send a PS file to Uniflow. Unless Uniflow can handle other types of files, but that's something you'd have to ask your Canon rep.
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#44568 - 08/05/13 03:22 PM Re: Size grows enormisly [Re: .Patrick]
bassss Offline
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Registered: 04/18/13
Posts: 10
We have got the same (rtf > pdf) issue over here.

It seems like our design document let the files grow from 40kb to almost 1mb and it slows down the printing.

It's not really a big problem when printing a job with 500 pages, but the problem accurs when we print 500 jobs with 1 page.

There is a small logo and some text set in the design to specify our location.

1. When we remove the logo, the size of the output document drops to almost 500kb and when we skip some rectangles and squares to cover up the values that we don't want to see on the output document, the size drops futher to 380kb.

If we don't use the design it stays around 40kb.

Does somebody has got an example to built up a good design document?

Thanks in advance

kinds regards
Bas



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#44569 - 08/05/13 03:31 PM Re: Size grows enormisly [Re: .Patrick]
bassss Offline
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Registered: 04/18/13
Posts: 10
Removing the text doesn't seems to make a lot of a differance. about 3kb less.

It's the images (rectangles/squares) that seems to be the problem.

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